Ankur Goyal

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How I AI · How Braintrust uses AI agents, evals, and CI to ship better software | Ankur Goyal · 15 Jun 2026 podcast

Product building and code writing now looks like carving rather than constructing.

So it's very fast to create something that has too many features and too many buttons and too much code.

And you need to spend a lot of time removing stuff.

And so we actually, I would say 90% of the time someone complains about something, we remove the thing that was causing confusion and just make the system work better.

Because we understand now that the person complained their point of view, and we're able to build a product that doesn't even need the complexity that led them to the confusion in the first place.

I'll give you an example.

If you load a trace and you imagine hitting Command-F,

You might in your brain think that that's just searching what's on the page, but what's on the page might be hundreds of megabytes of text and it's virtualized and it's across spans and there's also a table.

So we had a very powerful search implementation that would search across the spans and rank everything and, you know, blah, blah, blah, all this cool stuff.

And then a lot of people complained and they were just like, why is this?

You know, I just hit Command F. I just wanted to show the thing.

And we've really simplified it over time.

So I think we try to carve.

And then in terms of technically managing it,

We spend a lot more time working on CI than we used to.

And so I think that a lot of platform effort has shifted so that if we are really good at CI, then we're able to move faster.

And if we feel like we're constrained, then instead of shipping a bunch of crappy stuff, we're like, okay, let's pause and improve CI so that we earn the ability to move faster.

Yeah, yeah.

Every engineer is now building a platform, and upon the platform, agents are doing the work that the engineers were doing manually, right?

And I think that applies to evals.

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