Ann Marie (Anne‑Marie) Council

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Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ? · Dr Aaron Meyer and Ann Marie Council part 2: Breaking the Cycle: Why Serious Mental Illness Deserves Better Than Jail or the Streets · 24 Jun 2026 podcast

Did you want to take that?

Because I think you made a really good point, but I'm not sure the listeners know the depth of it.

I think what we did right, and it's funny, we did it right and we did it wrong.

And when I say we, it was well before any of us were born.

When John F. Kennedy first wanted community treatment as opposed to asylums, and then Ronald Reagan approved the LPS Act and closed a lot of the mental hospitals in favor of this community treatment, letting people live within the community rather than in these large facilities.

Absolutely fantastic idea.

The problem that we had was when they closed the facilities, the money went somewhere else.

The money didn't go into those community treatment options.

So we had the right idea, but the ball got dropped.

So now what I hope in 20 years is that we have a population in jail that's reduced by at least 26%.

Because I know that some of the conservative estimates of those in jail with serious mental illness is about 26%.

If we can reduce our law enforcement needs, our jail needs, our court needs, and put it into preventative, holistic, compassionate care, I think then we can be proud of ourselves.

That's such a hard one.

I would say first change your mindset because mindset, really, that's the only thing we can control, truly.

And I think there is, you know, I didn't bring it up earlier, but if somebody wants to see the paper that Dr. Meyer and I are talking about on this other access point 5200, if you go on quarterturnstrategies.com, you can get a free copy of that and just download it.

And the reason I bring it up is quarter turn, the reason I called the company that was because I don't want this pendulum to swing to the other side.

It's not one or the other.

It's not all voluntary or all involuntary.

I want to turn the system just thoughtfully and a little bit so we have that balance.

So that's what I would say is let's change our mental mindset to say involuntary care is sometimes the compassionate and right thing to do as long as due process is still maintained.

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