Ann Pettifor

This is France.

That's the United States, China.

That's South Africa.

This is Sierra Leone.

And they're inside this giant casino.

And

People inside the booths are scarcely aware of the fact they're inside a casino.

The key thing about the booths is that they've got their doors wide open and they never close their doors, with the exception of China.

And so people in the casino, which are mainly gamblers, speculators, is what they're called in the financial system, but also gangsters, the mafia, terrorists, drug dealers, they're all speculators.

you know, swanning around inside the casino.

And they can dip into the doors, through the doors, into our economies and out again without any friction.

But in reality, it means all these speculators plus all the criminals associated with the casino are sort of doing us huge harm.

And we don't know it exists.

And partly that's because it sounds like something remote.

And I wanted to make it into a territory and I wanted that territory to take shape.

And the shape is a casino.

And the key thing, and here we get back to dear old David Graeber, is that we constructed that casino.

Yeah.

And we can just as easily deconstruct it or reconstruct another system.

So it starts with the privatization of pensions in Chile back in the 1970s.