Ann Vaughan

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The MeatEater Podcast · Ep. 902: The Pros, Cons, and Complications of Data Centers · 13 Jul 2026 podcast

From what I've seen of some polls, people do find the threat of China and AI-enabled warfare to still be abstract.

And if they're in a community where it was pastoral, maybe it was pastoral because the factories closed and they just became cornfields again.

But the...

but they see their community first and don't want it to change with so much else changing.

And so the truth is that China has built a grid that's, you know, triple our size.

Now they've been powering manufacturing all this time that we've been doing less manufacturing, right?

So their grid is super modern.

It is capable of ramping up

for whatever it may be, economic, wartime.

They've got a grid that is quite capable, and they've got a burgeoning advanced manufacturing sector.

You know, we're not talking cheap toys and furniture.

We're talking, you know, batteries, automated factories.

We're talking, you know, all the different elements of green energy that...

know require solar panels uh but robotics you know all of this advanced manufacturing now there's an effort to bring it back here guess what that uses more energy and that you know will have an additional industrial footprint besides data centers and they will use data centers to run them that's man that's the thing i always think about is i i used to work on this theory i never got it worked out good it was kind of like an environmental nationalism and it's it's full of holes

Haven't we done that?

Yeah.

And you ask, well, can, you know, is there a way to do that and have fewer regrets?

And so, you know, I just wrote about this event I attended where a bunch of Silicon Valley founders had rushed to Detroit for, you know, the sole purpose of

discussing and showing how we can reindustrialize America using their technology, right?

Making factories, you know, and industrial bases work differently.

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