Annabelle Rackham

And that is like, if your approach is waging war and wanting to conquer and destroy, then that's pretty hard to justify morally.

But if your heart is at peace, then there is a difference between peacemakers and peacekeepers.

Peace keepers want you to sort of passively sit there and not create conflict, whereas peacemakers understand that you have to make conflict in order to engineer long-lasting peace.

So if you're approaching it with a heart of peace, then it's different at that sort of mystical level.

I want to scratch my eyes out.

So...

At one point he even says, you know, Yoda himself said, war does not make one great.

But he sort of just believes that, you know, that's actually what the Pope meant.

So the Pope's not actually mad at him.

Don't worry.

Okay.

So the cognitive distance is so strong for these millionaires.

And actually what the Pope means is that you will still be looked on, you know, sort of kindly for the other piece that you've created long term out of conflict.

Like the mental gymnastics they've just put themselves through must have been

And then the podcast ends and I'm on another one about a morning beauty routine.

This is the big and the small.

Yeah, this is the big and the small.

Congrats, Elon.

I've brought in the streamers.

I love it.