Anne Applebaum

Like you don't need to threaten people with the gulag, you know, or a concentration camp. I mean, you just say either you conform to this or you lose your job or either, you know, or you lose your benefits or something. And for most people, that's too much. I mean, especially again, we're talking about a small population of federal government workers who can find other jobs. Right.

They can go and work in the private sector or they can. do something else. But that then means that the federal government is going to select for people who are willing to go along with these either absurd or illegal rules.

They can go and work in the private sector or they can. do something else. But that then means that the federal government is going to select for people who are willing to go along with these either absurd or illegal rules.

They can go and work in the private sector or they can. do something else. But that then means that the federal government is going to select for people who are willing to go along with these either absurd or illegal rules.

you know, those guys have a moral choice, right? Stay there and help Musk steal data, right? Effectively or whatever it is, you know, whatever, or, you know, just computer system and make sure it doesn't harm people. And that's a, you know, that's the kind of choice that people make in occupied countries, right?

you know, those guys have a moral choice, right? Stay there and help Musk steal data, right? Effectively or whatever it is, you know, whatever, or, you know, just computer system and make sure it doesn't harm people. And that's a, you know, that's the kind of choice that people make in occupied countries, right?

you know, those guys have a moral choice, right? Stay there and help Musk steal data, right? Effectively or whatever it is, you know, whatever, or, you know, just computer system and make sure it doesn't harm people. And that's a, you know, that's the kind of choice that people make in occupied countries, right?

I'm going to work for the occupation force, even though I don't agree with it because I'm going to try and protect people. And maybe from the inside I can, I can do useful. That's like a known choice from, from,

I'm going to work for the occupation force, even though I don't agree with it because I'm going to try and protect people. And maybe from the inside I can, I can do useful. That's like a known choice from, from,

I'm going to work for the occupation force, even though I don't agree with it because I'm going to try and protect people. And maybe from the inside I can, I can do useful. That's like a known choice from, from,

you know, authoritarian or occupation regimes, or you make the choice to be a dissident and protest, in which case you lose influence, you know, or you conform completely and you say, here, Fred, take the codes and do whatever you want. Those are, you know, you're right there. I, you know, I left out the option of staying in, but that's a

you know, authoritarian or occupation regimes, or you make the choice to be a dissident and protest, in which case you lose influence, you know, or you conform completely and you say, here, Fred, take the codes and do whatever you want. Those are, you know, you're right there. I, you know, I left out the option of staying in, but that's a

you know, authoritarian or occupation regimes, or you make the choice to be a dissident and protest, in which case you lose influence, you know, or you conform completely and you say, here, Fred, take the codes and do whatever you want. Those are, you know, you're right there. I, you know, I left out the option of staying in, but that's a

Still, I mean, that's a choice from, I don't know if you know who I mean by the writer Czesław Miłosz, but he was a Polish writer and novelist. He won the Nobel Prize at some point or another. And he wrote a famous book that was published in the 1950s called Captive Minds. The book was partly about these exact choices. And he was somebody who you know, fought in the resistance against the Nazis.

Still, I mean, that's a choice from, I don't know if you know who I mean by the writer Czesław Miłosz, but he was a Polish writer and novelist. He won the Nobel Prize at some point or another. And he wrote a famous book that was published in the 1950s called Captive Minds. The book was partly about these exact choices. And he was somebody who you know, fought in the resistance against the Nazis.

Still, I mean, that's a choice from, I don't know if you know who I mean by the writer Czesław Miłosz, but he was a Polish writer and novelist. He won the Nobel Prize at some point or another. And he wrote a famous book that was published in the 1950s called Captive Minds. The book was partly about these exact choices. And he was somebody who you know, fought in the resistance against the Nazis.

And then after the war, for a while, he worked for the Polish Communist Foreign Service. I think he was even in the embassy in Washington. And then eventually he quit and broke with the regime. And he wrote this famous book describing these different kinds of choices.

And then after the war, for a while, he worked for the Polish Communist Foreign Service. I think he was even in the embassy in Washington. And then eventually he quit and broke with the regime. And he wrote this famous book describing these different kinds of choices.

And then after the war, for a while, he worked for the Polish Communist Foreign Service. I think he was even in the embassy in Washington. And then eventually he quit and broke with the regime. And he wrote this famous book describing these different kinds of choices.

And this is a book that, you know, felt like the first time I read it, I don't know, 20 years ago, like a piece of ancient history describing these, you know, But these are now these kinds of moral choices will now come back for American civil servants.