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Anne Applebaum

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The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

And depending on which part of the algorithm you're in is most shaped by Musk himself, you know, by what he says and his enormous numbers of followers.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

I don't want to minimize these incidents because they're horrible.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

I mean, but it's but it's true.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

You can take one incident and you can tell a story about a whole country that isn't necessarily true.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

I mean, just as you said, if the perpetrator is not, in fact, an immigrant.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

Right.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

or not an illegal immigrant or not a migrant at all.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

And yet he's being used to whip up hatred of migrants.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

You know, that's an illustration of how you can take a fact and twist it and distort it and make it into make a story that isn't necessarily political.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

I understand that story.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

It was a it was a police screw up and there was a there was a deliberate misinformation.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

Right, which is not the first time that kind of thing has ever happened.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

I mean, there are all kinds of domestic violence stories where, you know, men accuse women of doing various things.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

And anyway, it's not completely unique.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

But, you know, once you go down to the story, it doesn't have anything to do with the police being anti-white, which is the language that Elon Musk and his pals on X are using.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

Right.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

I mean, it's a horrible story.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

It's a terrible story.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

It's a police mistake and disaster, and it's a tragedy, but it isn't a political story in the way that it's being made to be.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Trump's Firehose of Lies

And so that you can pluck these stories out of real life, turn them into something else on the internet, and then use the anger that they generate to create riots and people burning down houses somewhere else is pretty scary.