Anne Imhof

And she was like, what's this?

Like,

are you doing this?

Like I was like eight or nine or something.

And then it made me think maybe it's the artists that inspire you the most is not the artists you see, but it's the artists that see you.

And there are people that I think on my way saw me, like it was Tino for sure, who was a big mentor for me.

And then

Bill Forsythe, the same.

He was closer than other artists.

And so I think this is very important to distinguish that and on the same way, it might be the same importance.

Yeah, I think I convinced my parents who were not at all actually up for putting me in a private school or like also actually didn't have the means to do that for all my school career at all.

But I was so vehement about it because I felt like I'm not fitting in.

And there is something that I thought in England, because...

I read like English literature or like I thought in England in the schools, they're all like writing poetry all day and have a good art education.

And also I was like in love with a girl that I convinced, like she convinced her parents too, to go to the same school.

So it was like on the same way, like kind of an escape in something.

And then I was a very, very shy kid.

kid like or maybe both extremes in a way so I was coming to the art class the first day of school and was sitting there and the art teacher looked over my shoulder and this was like this moment where he grabbed the pencil out of my hand and

put it the other way around and said like, hey, try it like this.

It may feel different.