Anne-Marie Robinson

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Sea of Lies from Uncover · S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher · 8 Jan 2025 podcast

I mean, to Anne-Marie, it makes no sense.

Anne Marie, the policy wonk, has continued her research. She hopes to advocate for change. She now has a better understanding of the gaps in rules for teachers and the laws protecting kids. She knows those gaps are still problematic today. Sexual assault laws changed in the 1980s.

It later became an offense for a person of authority, including a teacher, to have a sexual encounter with a person under 18. The crime is called sexual exploitation. Anne Marie thinks this law could apply to what happened to Ali.

I just don't understand. Exasperation hangs over the room. They need a break. It's time for cake and yearbooks.

Nice walker. Allie cuts the coffee cake. Jackie pours the tea. Other beverages are passed around, poured into glasses with long stems. Yearbooks, diaries, journals, and band trip photos are scattered across the wooden table. Look at him.

There's another one. He looks wasted.

Ali hasn't seen Jackie's diaries before now. She's the youngest of these survivors. I can tell she's overwhelmed, yet comforted by this invasion of her home. This is all so new to her.

What makes you angry? Tears well in her eyes.

Well, it's kind of the same thing.

Just that somebody could be this diabolical. Jeannie gets out of her chair, comes over to where Ali is sitting, arms wide open.

And that other people let it happen.

You were only 17 then, I guess, eh?

They never found out at the time, but... You have a different support family here. Yeah.

Well, and not only are you believed, but you... You're not alone, and there's people that know exactly how you feel.

And yet I still get teary when I talk to you all too. Like this is painful stuff we're bringing up again. and being asked intimate questions about, so it's okay to be emotional.

For more than 35 years, Ali has lived with this, mostly on her own. But everyone in this room, in the club, is trying to figure out how it could have happened, over and over. They feel like victims of gaslighting, stuck in their own heads too long, unsure about what's real. When authorities didn't act, was it really because there was no crime?

I'm going to leave the clubhouse for a bit and introduce you to a woman who spent her career researching the abuse of children, people from age 0 to 18. This is someone who can give us some perspective.

Her research started in her home country, South Africa, but her work is international. Canada is home.

Beverly has a lot of initials after her name, including a PhD in psychology. I explain the dilemma of the women in the club, how authorities have perceived what happened to them. There's a perception that there's no crime.

And Beverly says when the victim is a girl, there are even more opportunities for disparity.

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