Anne Morris

And then how might we evolve this job so that it gets closer to what you need?

And if you can't get it here, then let's plot an exit for where you can find it.

One more.

I want to get into one more sandbox on this, Frances.

Okay.

I'm going to describe this one as add a zero.

Yeah, I love this.

And there is a point, you and I talk to a lot of companies, we work with a lot of great teams.

There is a point early on in every conversation we have with leaders and teams of leaders where you say some variation on,

Oh, interesting.

Those goals are terrific.

And what would happen if we added a zero?

You also sometimes call this the magic dust question, where if you could sprinkle magic dust, what would be different tomorrow than it is today?

It is a totally electric moment when you give people license to really dream.

So what does that look like for people listening on the scale of an individual life?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the path may be one step at a time, but what I hear you saying to people is, let's pick a destination that's worthy of you.

You're going to get up every day and do something hard.

And people sometimes ask about timelines.