Anne Morris

This is a hardcore variable that defines high performance.

So now, Frances, I want to throw out a couple other things to think about.

If you're the one who has the ball in this complicated moment—

One, I want to talk for a second about the employee value proposition, because you may be in a situation where you can't offer stability or security.

It may be a fast-moving situation.

You may not be able to guarantee that there won't be layoffs again.

But I think there's an interesting question about what can you offer in those moments.

When I've seen people do this really well, it's an opportunity to have a clear adult-to-adult conversation with the people around you that is roughly, I am not going to protect you from the truth here.

I can't make any guarantees.

But if you stay...

Right.

And if we figure this out together, we are building a future where you will have a place.

So this is a high risk, high reward situation.

I'm not going to shield you from the risk part, but I want to have a very clear conversation about the reward.

A hundred percent.

And you may be in an environment where comp can't be on the list today.

But then make sure it's experiences and education.

Make sure you have really gone after the other one.

Yes.

And let's talk about compensation tomorrow.