Anne Morris

You're bringing it out of the shadows, the individual pain that people are experiencing in their offices.

And you're saying, yeah, no, this is collective pain.

We're gonna name it, we're gonna work through it, and we're gonna get to the other side together.

Yeah, what I find so hopeful about Argyris' research on this, and it really did fall out of a lifetime of work on identifying the variables that really explain high-performing teams.

And then here's the part that really excites me.

They're not even that good at it.

Courage over competence.

Because sometimes, you know, I have this people-pleasing side.

And so I will pause in the face of conflict sometimes.

And I have to, like, steel myself for it.

And I go back to this again and again because his research doesn't conclude.

You're a UN-level conflict negotiator.

Disgusting and disgustable.

But everybody else says just stay clear.

This stuff is high stakes for you to touch.

No.

His point is really all of us need to get in there and find a way to make this stuff discussable.

So that we right-size it.

And it's not to feel good.

No.