Anneke Lucas

In this organized setting where children are killed...

It's like you come to life in the moment of that child that is alive there, and you make that child go through symbolically the same thing as what you've gone through many, many times to lose all hope that you can be loved.

And ultimately, it's people that cannot connect with their inner light or with the innocence, really, which is how we're born.

Mm-hmm.

When babies are born, it's beautiful, innocent.

And these people have no access to that anymore.

So they don't believe in it anymore.

And because they don't believe in it, everything is inverted.

And that's really how Satanism is like this large, large justification for just not being able to connect to yourself.

There's definitely a link.

And I don't think they all are also, but everyone has to stay quiet about it.

Or you're dissociated because you've been abused yourself and you're dissociated so you don't remember.

But the more money there is in a family, the harder it would be to stand up and come out about this stuff.

Because what always happens, whether you're a normal incest family, like say lower class incest family or the wealthiest family in the world, if you start speaking out, you will lose everything.

Your family will make sure that you lose everything.

I don't really, I'm not really aware of that, but I can imagine that it would be really awful.

But anybody who's in the spotlight, I wouldn't really know what's going on really.

No, of course not.

But that means you have to keep the secrets also.

Yeah.