Annie Jacobsen
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It was an explosive revelation, and I felt very confident in writing this because the source wanted it written. Why? Because he said, I'm dedicated to my country. I know about being committed to national security. And this kind of thing must never happen. And if you give people too much power, they will take advantage of it. And he wanted it on the record.
It was an explosive revelation, and I felt very confident in writing this because the source wanted it written. Why? Because he said, I'm dedicated to my country. I know about being committed to national security. And this kind of thing must never happen. And if you give people too much power, they will take advantage of it. And he wanted it on the record.
And his wife of 60 years did not know until after the book published. Nor did his children, okay? So after the book published, I was called to his house and sat there with his family. And they said, tell us this isn't true. And he said, it is true, right? Now, that source is Al O'Donnell, who is the nuclear weapons engineer who armed, wired, and fired 186 nuclear weapons. Okay?
And his wife of 60 years did not know until after the book published. Nor did his children, okay? So after the book published, I was called to his house and sat there with his family. And they said, tell us this isn't true. And he said, it is true, right? Now, that source is Al O'Donnell, who is the nuclear weapons engineer who armed, wired, and fired 186 nuclear weapons. Okay?
And his wife of 60 years did not know until after the book published. Nor did his children, okay? So after the book published, I was called to his house and sat there with his family. And they said, tell us this isn't true. And he said, it is true, right? Now, that source is Al O'Donnell, who is the nuclear weapons engineer who armed, wired, and fired 186 nuclear weapons. Okay?
So if you want to talk about something, you're the first person I've told that on the record, but it's kind of about time.
So if you want to talk about something, you're the first person I've told that on the record, but it's kind of about time.
So if you want to talk about something, you're the first person I've told that on the record, but it's kind of about time.
And the source is extraordinarily credible, right? If you wanted to take the position, well, that person isn't very reliable, then you have to ask yourself, Why did they have top secret clearances that are higher than any in the United States whatsoever? Because he was responsible for arming nuclear bombs. He was called the trigger man.
And the source is extraordinarily credible, right? If you wanted to take the position, well, that person isn't very reliable, then you have to ask yourself, Why did they have top secret clearances that are higher than any in the United States whatsoever? Because he was responsible for arming nuclear bombs. He was called the trigger man.
And the source is extraordinarily credible, right? If you wanted to take the position, well, that person isn't very reliable, then you have to ask yourself, Why did they have top secret clearances that are higher than any in the United States whatsoever? Because he was responsible for arming nuclear bombs. He was called the trigger man.
And by the way, he told me that I could tell the world who he was. There's a lot of details that are really dark. involving that program. And when is it appropriate, right? Well, it feels appropriate now, first of all, because you and I have been talking for several hours. So this is what is truly a long-form conversation.
And by the way, he told me that I could tell the world who he was. There's a lot of details that are really dark. involving that program. And when is it appropriate, right? Well, it feels appropriate now, first of all, because you and I have been talking for several hours. So this is what is truly a long-form conversation.
And by the way, he told me that I could tell the world who he was. There's a lot of details that are really dark. involving that program. And when is it appropriate, right? Well, it feels appropriate now, first of all, because you and I have been talking for several hours. So this is what is truly a long-form conversation.
And it's the outcome of, you know, a very long time of my reporting and also being judicious about... closing the loop on that, right? Because I do think it's important for people to know that sources have revelations.
And it's the outcome of, you know, a very long time of my reporting and also being judicious about... closing the loop on that, right? Because I do think it's important for people to know that sources have revelations.
And it's the outcome of, you know, a very long time of my reporting and also being judicious about... closing the loop on that, right? Because I do think it's important for people to know that sources have revelations.
That is open to debate. We know from the historical record that the CIA was heavily involved in assassination during the Cold War. That's non-negotiable. Even the names of the programs that were assigned to perform assassinations are fascinating and now like Eisenhower's, for example, was the Health Alteration Committee.
That is open to debate. We know from the historical record that the CIA was heavily involved in assassination during the Cold War. That's non-negotiable. Even the names of the programs that were assigned to perform assassinations are fascinating and now like Eisenhower's, for example, was the Health Alteration Committee.
That is open to debate. We know from the historical record that the CIA was heavily involved in assassination during the Cold War. That's non-negotiable. Even the names of the programs that were assigned to perform assassinations are fascinating and now like Eisenhower's, for example, was the Health Alteration Committee.