Annie Jacobsen

I was in that writer's room every day, day in and day out.

Ryan's season one and season two.

Wow.

And it was like and, you know, it's a collaborative effort, by the way.

It's not that.

You know, we're all working together to figure out the best the best storyline.

But the actual capture, the assault, the compound was something that I brought in a bunch of, you know, air quotes, former military folks.

Help the writers room understand how we could portray that kind of a of a killer capture mission authentically.

And that's obviously what we did.

Well, I was shocked for a very different reason.

And I think for me, I'm always looking at the technical aspects of things in terms of the military equipment and the planning, what's called.

And then also how it sits in.

In the long line of history, meaning militaries and the CIA's kill or capture missions since the invention of the seat or rather the the sort of CIA became an organization after World War Two and dealt with organizations like Delta Force.

So to me, that's what's shocking is how it's absolutely changing.

And, you know, we can get into the details of that because that's what I've

It is unusual.

And what's also interesting is that every, if you, I think if you look at the presidents and you approach, if you're like me, a historian who writes specifically about military and intelligence, you can see how the president, or at least I can, is impacted by both his predecessors, because predecessors

Presidents are briefed on what the other guys have done and who they want to emulate.

And then also they want to set their own sort of stamp on, you know, special activities, if you will.

Euphemism for this kind of thing, a killer capture mission.