Annie Jacobsen

He's a historian of science and technology.

And he goes like way back, you know, like bubonic plague he'll write about of how

that changed industry across Europe in these really general, easy to digest, fascinating ways.

But in terms of your technology, TikTok is the world going to hell in a handbasket.

I think of him because he said that when the – and this is a great analogy, I think, that I think of with my kids and social media.

When the printing press was invented –

absolutely all of society thought the world was going to go to hell in a handbasket.

But before that, the only people who could read, really, were the priests.

And so they kept all this information and they doled it out according to their line of thinking.

And then the printing press came along and the hoi polloi could read.

That began, really...

The birth of mass populations being able to read, which is where we are today.

And sometimes I like think about James Burke and I think about that as an analogy to where we are today, that what is going on is just an upheaval like the printing press in terms of making a lot more people more literate.

And so maybe it's not even – I mean I used to think of literacy and its true definition is actually reading.

And I remember when audiobooks came out, and I read all my own audiobooks.

And I originally thought that listening to me read my own book was somehow you wouldn't have the same experience of reading it yourself.

And then I realized I was putting my standard.

I actually enjoy reading.

I like to read.

That's the way I'm wired.