Annie Jacobsen

I mean I'm interested in the individual stories of people who change always because I think that it's too – I don't want to say depressing for me but it's too – like if I think of America as this big giant situation with problems, it becomes overwhelming.

I just try to focus on people's really interesting, cool stories.

I'll tell you one that comes to mind with the guy who was my Uber driver the other day.

And we're chatting away and he tells me that he used to be like 350 pounds.

And he was like this thin dude.

And he was talking to me about driving an Uber at night so he could save money for one of his kids to go to college.

And I was like, wow, how did you suddenly lose weight?

And he told me that he was a security guard at a military base.

And, you know, he said I was giant.

And the dudes in the military were totally fit.

And one of them said to me one time, dude, you gotta lose some weight.

And I listened to him and he let me go into the military gym.

one guy.

Be that guy.

Be that guy.

And, and, but that to our point of like, well, if you're not allowed to say like, dude, you're overweight or he didn't, you know, essentially like by saying, dude, you should come to the gym.

He's the subtext there is dude, you're overweight.

Like you're, you know, unhealthily overweight.

That's that fine line of stuff I find really interesting is talking about things that

That make people uncomfortable.