Annie Jacobsen

I don't think that should be so taboo.

I think you should be able to be honest, assertive, and direct.

There's a great saying that I love.

I try to live my life by and I definitely write about in all my books, which is you can't fix what you can't face.

Alternatively, you can fix what you can what you're willing to face.

And that's what's so much about.

If it's fixable.

I think you can fix anything, even if it's just a mental fix or a spiritual fix.

But are you willing to?

But on the technology front, do you ever read James Burke?

He wrote a lot in the 80s.

And he was writing about science and technology.

He's a historian of science and technology.

And he goes like way back, you know, like bubonic plague he'll write about of how

that changed industry across Europe in these really general, easy to digest, fascinating ways.

But in terms of your technology, TikTok is the world going to hell in a handbasket.

I think of him because he said that when the – and this is a great analogy, I think, that I think of with my kids and social media.

When the printing press was invented –

absolutely all of society thought the world was going to go to hell in a handbasket.

But before that, the only people who could read, really, were the priests.