Annie Jacobsen

Imagine what that must have been like for her.

All of her friends.

Yes.

She was in a girl's school and they worked for the Japanese military.

That's how desperate the Japanese army was at the time.

They had the 13-year-old girls working for them.

And she tells these horrific details that she could remember.

God.

And she's just the brightest star and the hugest advocate.

And people like that are just so inspiring.

But do you see an analogy between nuclear weapons and AI?

The nuclear weapons buildup of the 50s and 60s was done without guardrails.

There was one point in 1957, Joe, we were making 5,000.

No, we were making five nuclear weapons a day, almost 2,000 in one year.

That's so crazy.

That is so – I mean the – and so of course Russia was doing the same or aspired to do the same.

And so there were no guardrails and the sort of elixir being sold was we need this.

More nuclear weapons will make us more safe.

Isn't that also a message for today of, okay, so where are the guardrails on AI?

And I think part of that comes from the fact that you say AI and most people, for good reason, don't really know precisely what that means.