Annie Jacobsen

So I believe that the kind of conversations we're having are

are all part of it because half the people listening to this or watching this will go Google what is AI, what it really is, and then find out it's machine learning.

So you begin to have more literacy in your own being and more comfort to be able to talk about it and have a voice about it.

Thinking back to the earlier part of this conversation with our hunter-gatherer ancestors with the – the argument is was the spear and the arrowhead, was that – did that come out of man's imagination for warfare or to make it easier to kill the wild beast or the woolly mammoth?

It was both.

I think it was both.

Both.

So the analogy –

Where will the AI go with that?

Because you're talking about all these very healthy ideas and solutions.

But just because of what I write about and who I speak to, I cannot help but see the powerful defense industry taking the pole position and making it secret.

in terms of which direction AI is really going to accelerate.

Why would people would rather have you listening to the radio and watching you get your news from CNN?

On some level, doesn't that empower people?

Because they see those victories and they become more curious and they become more thoughtful in their –

In their way in which they're going to examine information that gets presented to them in the future?

My point is that the pushback is sometimes as powerful as the attempt to censor.

Meaning, in other words, like if you look at China and you look at what Mao did with, you know, all like just completely obliterating access to information.

And in a communist environment, nothing's changed, and that's tragic for everyone living there.

But even if I think of the Hunter Biden story, my own self, who was maybe busy with something, I can't remember what, and didn't get involved in that then, I read about it now and learn from it and say, wow, that's really interesting that that happened.