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Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

But when Byron Sage called into Mount Carmel just before 6pm to find out what was taking so long, he was met with some devastating news.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Koresh's right-hand man, Steve Schneider, informed Sage that David Koresh had changed his mind.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Steve repeatedly reiterated that Koresh was awaiting further instruction from God and nothing would happen until those instructions arrived.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Embarrassed and bitterly disappointed, Byron Sage had to return to his commanders with the news that no one would be leaving Mount Carmel that night.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

The anger the FBI leaders felt about David Koresh's last-minute change of mind was reflected in the crackdown that followed.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

The head of the agency's hostage rescue team informed the siege commander, quote, it's time to teach him a lesson.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

There was debate amongst the various FBI leaders as to how to proceed from here.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

They didn't all see the situation eye to eye, with different units arguing for different approaches.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

The Hostage Rescue Team, or HRT, was an elite tactical unit trained to take action.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Their instincts were typically to rush in and get a situation under control.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

As one HRT member told journalists from PBS's Frontline program, "...a crime's been committed, and I'm talking murder charges.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

You've got to do something about it.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

You cannot just let those people sit."

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

The HRT's role would be to surround and secure a scene before going in and using force if necessary.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

This style led to them sometimes being called ninjas.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

At Mount Carmel, they took up multiple positions from all sides, situating themselves about 300 yards or 275 metres from the building.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

In contrast, the FBI's team of negotiators were not working directly at the scene.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Their headquarters were in an aeroplane hangar five and a half miles away and their approach was very different from the HRT.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Focused on building trust with subjects through talk and a steady pace, their goal was to convince the Branch Davidians to come out, rather than rushing in to take them.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

They couldn't actually see what was going on inside the compound and would rely on reports shared by the Branch Davidians and their colleagues instead.