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Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Negotiator Gary Nassner was concerned when he overheard Dick Rogers, the head of the HRT, telling siege commander Jeff Jamar that it was time to teach David Koresh a lesson.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Rogers wanted to send his team in, stating, My people can get in and secure that place in 15 minutes.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Gary Nassner argued against this, pointing out that Koresh had still been releasing women and children overnight.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Perhaps he might continue to release more, even if he wasn't ready to surrender himself.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

The negotiators felt that storming in with force would undermine the delicate level of trust they'd worked to build with Koresh and his followers.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Ultimately, siege commander Jeff Jamar sided with the negotiators, agreeing it was too soon to send in the HRT.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Jamar was acting as special agent in charge of operations in accordance with FBI procedure.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

According to the bureau's policies, when a major event like Waco took place, it would be run by the highest ranking local agent.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Jeff Jamar was that agent at the nearby office in San Antonio.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Although he believed that it was too soon to cease negotiations with Koresh, Jamar was also inclined to agree with Dick Rogers that the religious leader needed to be taught a lesson.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

He ordered that some of the Bradley Armoured vehicles that had been set up around the perimeter of Mount Carmel be moved closer to the building,

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

This would function as a visible reminder of the FBI's presence and power at the scene.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

To further this image of greater control, the FBI also built fake sniper positions, while also having genuine snipers set up at less visible locations.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Inside Mount Carmel, some of the Branch Davidians were just as disappointed and confused by David Koresh's abrupt change of mind as the FBI agents.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

There had been an impromptu celebration the night before, with members raiding the refrigerator and pouring alcoholic beverages.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

They toasted the impending end to the siege with stale cake and whiskey and sang songs to celebrate.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

David Koresh hadn't joined in, as he'd been confined upstairs with his shooting injury.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

At some point, Steve Schneider had told everyone to stop celebrating, adding, David's mad with you guys.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Why are you letting down the message?

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

When news came late the following day that they wouldn't be leaving after all, some Branch Davidians wondered if their sinful behaviour the previous night was to blame.