Anonymous Whistleblower
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard Apr 2025
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Right. Stuff unrelated to exotic things that are very.
Oh, see, I was in there a little over four years, but I was in the Pentagon a little over five because I moved out of there briefly into the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence and a smaller office in there.
Same field, different work, different boss, different community.
Yeah, that's that's the industry in D.C.
Why is that? Well, you have government management and they're supposed to be the ones that, you know, they sign the checks, make the final decisions. But most of the staff is contractors, military people on detail. people on fellowships from, you know, either think tanks or universities.
Yeah, I mean, it can be that way. My experience was more that we had a team. It was all more or less on the same information level. But then there'd be other teams that, yeah, they have their own. So it's not quite as isolated. I've heard from others. It can be just, you know, it's you and no one else around you knows what you're doing.
Well, I mean, the day to day is overseen by the government. So in that sense, it's there.
Yeah, I went to George Washington University, Master's of Security Policy Study. I got to the point where I had a thesis to submit, and then I started working at the Pentagon. I took a break, and... Kind of got caught up in the churn, as the term is.
Yeah, so I mean, it started with the first part. I think, for me at least, yeah, it was... I finally made it, right? I'm working out the Pentagon. I... It's cheesy, but I felt pride pretty much every single day that I rolled in there. That's not cheesy. And I was very fortunate to join an office that cared a lot about their people, not just their performance at work.
their goals their desires and how they were getting on uh with life in general um fewer places are like that um but i look back on that time with a lot of with a lot of happiness how do things begin to sour is it because of this topic that we're going to discuss yes let's take it from there when does that start what what's your first exposure
To some degree, I've always been interested in aliens and UFOs, secret histories, the things that are hidden from us. It's been a lifelong kind of passion. It's not always aliens, you know. While I was always interested in these things, they were never... They were only a realm of possible.
And when I looked at UFOs in a serious way, as I was more in my college years, I got just not exposure, but I started learning about the sort of ecosystem of secrecy in the military industrial complex, what saps are, what caps are.
And you start to realize, like, oh, yeah, there's a good chance a lot of what these UFO things are are some really cool stuff that we have, whether it's in the air, under the water, or...
When I joined, I thought, you know, I pretty much locked down that, you know, there might be life out there, but most, I think, most of what we're seeing in the sky is at that time, I thought was either ours or...
In fact, you know, I would be looked at like I had a third eye just by suggesting there were stealth satellites.
Yeah, yeah. You know, I really liked the Pentagon. I learned an immense amount there, and I would stay there till the wee hours of the morning learning.
100% accidentally. Well, sorry. Okay. The Immaculate Constellation piece of this, 100% accidentally. Before I was exposed to that, you know, I had seen UAP on military videos in the Pentagon, but nothing that suggested, you know, origin, intent, or in the level of detail that, you know, I came to find later.
so you have a clearance and there's a secret internet and on that secret internet there's just a generic access like uni it's all very secret sensitive stuff but more or less everyone can look at what's on there then you know you have on this secret internet uh some compartmentation, light compartmentation, as it were. And then there's entirely different systems for truly, truly sensitive stuff.
But the point is, is that there is essentially, you know, a shared, shared community of knowledge. And it goes back You know, just like our own internet, it goes back over decades.
Yeah, pretty much. Or things that are just people protect their business processes.
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