Anthony Romero

He was corralling people up and kind of having Gestapo-like law enforcement efforts focused on immigrants. And Chris Kobach was the one who was trying to purge people from the polls who he thought— Which was where? In Kansas. And both of these individuals we sued, and we won. And they didn't like the fact that we won. And so they tried to defy these court orders in both of those instances.

He was corralling people up and kind of having Gestapo-like law enforcement efforts focused on immigrants. And Chris Kobach was the one who was trying to purge people from the polls who he thought— Which was where? In Kansas. And both of these individuals we sued, and we won. And they didn't like the fact that we won. And so they tried to defy these court orders in both of those instances.

We would have to litigate the implementation of their contempt. And so you would threaten them with fines and threaten them with incarceration. Ultimately— You're going to do that with the president of the United States? You bet. You bet.

We would have to litigate the implementation of their contempt. And so you would threaten them with fines and threaten them with incarceration. Ultimately— You're going to do that with the president of the United States? You bet. You bet.

We would have to litigate the implementation of their contempt. And so you would threaten them with fines and threaten them with incarceration. Ultimately— You're going to do that with the president of the United States? You bet. You bet.

And part of it is to figure out how you can bring in people into the debate who are otherwise on the side of Donald Trump and Elon Musk and to say, wait a minute, this is a step too far.

And part of it is to figure out how you can bring in people into the debate who are otherwise on the side of Donald Trump and Elon Musk and to say, wait a minute, this is a step too far.

And part of it is to figure out how you can bring in people into the debate who are otherwise on the side of Donald Trump and Elon Musk and to say, wait a minute, this is a step too far.

There are many conservatives. Some of them I've just begun to talk to yesterday, to kind of run by them. If he openly defines a court order, what can we do together? Now, if we do not succeed, let's say no one comes, the cavalry doesn't ride and the Alamo is by itself. Then what? Then we've got to take to the streets in a different way.

There are many conservatives. Some of them I've just begun to talk to yesterday, to kind of run by them. If he openly defines a court order, what can we do together? Now, if we do not succeed, let's say no one comes, the cavalry doesn't ride and the Alamo is by itself. Then what? Then we've got to take to the streets in a different way.

There are many conservatives. Some of them I've just begun to talk to yesterday, to kind of run by them. If he openly defines a court order, what can we do together? Now, if we do not succeed, let's say no one comes, the cavalry doesn't ride and the Alamo is by itself. Then what? Then we've got to take to the streets in a different way.

We've got to shut down this country and people of right and left.

We've got to shut down this country and people of right and left.

We've got to shut down this country and people of right and left.

You know, we're just beginning to think it through. We're talking with colleagues and other organizations. There's got to be a moment when people of goodwill will just say, this is way too far.

You know, we're just beginning to think it through. We're talking with colleagues and other organizations. There's got to be a moment when people of goodwill will just say, this is way too far.

You know, we're just beginning to think it through. We're talking with colleagues and other organizations. There's got to be a moment when people of goodwill will just say, this is way too far.

Well, there have been efforts. You know, Marbury v. Madison was a case when the original, the crucial case when the government tried to snub his nose at the role of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court was not what it was. It's not as powerful or established an institution as it is today. You had FDR who tried to pack the court. It's not new that presidents bristle at judicial oversight.

Well, there have been efforts. You know, Marbury v. Madison was a case when the original, the crucial case when the government tried to snub his nose at the role of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court was not what it was. It's not as powerful or established an institution as it is today. You had FDR who tried to pack the court. It's not new that presidents bristle at judicial oversight.

Well, there have been efforts. You know, Marbury v. Madison was a case when the original, the crucial case when the government tried to snub his nose at the role of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court was not what it was. It's not as powerful or established an institution as it is today. You had FDR who tried to pack the court. It's not new that presidents bristle at judicial oversight.