Anthony Rubin

And rightly so.

I mean, we got kidnapped by the Gulf Cartel at the very end of it.

Get it.

encountered other cartel organizations here when we were doing it now there was still the criminal element there like when we're in mauritania uh i believe i was you know that we were trying to meet up with smugglers they were trying to set us up there's a whole other story but really what i was afraid of not just in mauritania obviously but of course like in spain and france and the uk was not criminal organizations even though we're going and trying to you know embed with

migrants that are getting smuggled.

It was the government.

The entire time I was worried that they were going to realize that there are two Americans walking around with hidden cameras and they're going to bust down our hotel room door and pick us up and, you know, haul us off in a paddy wagon.

That was honestly what I was more afraid of.

National suicide, man.

That's what it is.

But did your views change?

Did my views change?

Well, look, it is very sad.

I will say probably not because it was more or less what I expected.

But...

you know, it's just another thing to see it in person.

Did it change?

No, but, you know, it was a learning experience.

Oh, definitely the ones coming into Europe, 100%.

These are very serious guys.