Anthony Rubin

It really does.

A hundred percent.

So that's at the highest level.

Now, at the lower levels, if we're looking at who's actually doing this, you're talking criminal organizations.

You're talking opportunist countries who use this as a means to get, you know, financial aid, financial support, almost like blackmail.

And you're looking at non-governmental organizations, many of them.

And, you know, that's we could get into that.

I mean, they should be investigated, audited, prosecuted, a lot of them.

But, you know, I noticed they haven't been.

Well, a lot of them haven't been, no.

100%.

Absolutely.

So the king daddy above everything is the United Nations.

Yes.

And their migration wing, which is the International Organization of Migration, the acronym is the IOM.

And really everywhere you go and where you see this stuff and by everywhere you go, I mean, when you're at key border crossing points, I'll give you an example.

In the Americas, for example, when these people cross the Darien Gap, which I've crossed with my brother, we've trekked through that jungle.

There is a town called Nicokli, which is on the Colombian side.

And that's like the launching point where they from there, they get on a boat, they go to the mouth of the jungle and they start trekking across.

You have IOM workers that were there.