Antoinette Lattouf

Yeah.

And they go, well, that person's evil.

That person's awful.

Let's distract onto that person.

And usually being angry about domestic violence, everyone goes, she's so angry all the time.

I go, well, what am I angry about?

Let's talk about the thing that I'm angry about.

But it's amazing that you've taken this, what would be a distraction, and you've taken the focus back to the women who win.

Yes.

See, when you go through something that is so monumental and culturally significant and you as an individual at the centre of it, the outcome can only really be really good or really fucking bad or a mix of both.

It doesn't feel like there's ever like –

you know, business as usual, carry on again.

It's so...

It's the definition of bittersweet.

It sounds like a bit of a cliché to say, but all of these stories have such extremes in all of them.

Do you, even though the book is called Women Who Win, would you say all of the stories are a win for those women personally?

Yeah.

And also with defamation, at the end, whoever loses pays the other person's costs.

So she would have had her costs.

existing as a public figure, although she isn't a public figure, but to law students she is.