Anushka Matanda-Doughty

Like straight off the bat as an answer, the allegations that Candace has made are very, very layered.

It's not just saying that she transitioned.

It's saying that she stole somebody else's identity.

It's saying that they're lying to the French people.

If you pull directly from the Macron's complaints, you can see some of the other stuff that Candace has said.

It says, quote, she then...

escalated her rhetoric falsely alleging that the macrons are part of a very small group of elite oligarchs who routinely practice homosexuality and paedophilia believe in baphomet that's a satanic deity and worship a transgender deity that controls the world this is yet another baseless inherently implausible claim obviously as well practicing practicing which is a weird way to put it practicing homosexuality isn't

defamatory either but we can hear some of the other stuff that's in there incest she has claimed that potentially Brigitte and Emmanuel are actually related there's a whole list of stuff and the complaint is very very long and it really goes through every single thing that she said and why they're filing for defamation my question to you Sean is if she hadn't made any of those other allegations and she just said I think Brigitte Macron was born a man and transitioned in her 30s would they still be able to file a defamation lawsuit

Yes.

So it still has to prove actual malice that Candace said something.

She knew to be false and said it anyway or presented something as the truth while recklessly disregarding that it might be false.

But I just want to add on to what you were saying about Brigitte will have to prove how it's damaged her.

And I just want to add to that about cognizable damages.

You have to prove your damages in a civil lawsuit.

And when we spoke to Tom Clare, who is the Macron's lawyer, who's filed the lawsuit in Delaware against Candace Owens,

He made really clear what Brigitte and Emmanuel have said their damages are in the wake of everything Candice has said about Brigitte Macron.

And there's another layer onto that because they say in the complaints, defendants have subjected the McCrons to a campaign of global humiliation, turning their lives into fodder for profit driven lies.

So they're saying there's damages there with Brigitte because she's been on a global humiliation tour.

That's been part of her damages.

But on top of that, they say, you know, Candice has monetized this content.