Anushka Matanda-Doughty

She's on multiple different platforms where you can monetize content.

And she was also selling merchandise.

She was selling t-shirts that said Times Man of the Year with Brigitte's face on the front.

So there's an extra layer there.

I think I'm correct in saying this, Sean.

They don't have to prove motive for what Candice was doing to prove actual malice.

but they have included that extra layer.

So when they're telling, well, this is what they told me in the interview, when they're explaining to the jury what was going on, they will not only say what Candace has done, but why she's done it.

You're spot on.

Okay, so our next question is from Emily in the UK.

She didn't want to send a voice note, so I'll read it out.

She says, you talk about the defence of being a bad journalist as a defence against defamation.

Is there a legal definition of a journalist or can anybody use this?

I think this is a fantastic question.

Sean, can you just unpack...

What she means when we say we've talked about the defense of being like a shoddy journalist before.

But so if she says, I genuinely believe this from the digging, from the interviews I've conducted, from the research I've read, this was a genuine belief.

And as a journalist, I am protected.

I think, you know, from Emily's question, it's who gets that protection as a journalist?

Because who's a journalist?