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Arash Azizi

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481 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

has cost them a lot.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So there is indeed a very huge gap for reasons that I said.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And yes, Iranians are very diverse.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

There is a very hardcore regime supporter that exists, 10, 15%, that really support the regime and they're the ones who come out.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

But the vast majority of Iranians are sick of these conditions, but they want what they call themselves a normal life, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I mean, that's a very good question, and it can have different visions, but I would say, if you look at long sorts of Iranian history, right, what is Iran's story?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Iran's story is that it's one of the only countries in the world to never have been colonized, but it's very strategically isolated, by which I mean, Iran is a country in a region full of either Arabs, Turks, or Sunni Muslims, and Iran is neither of this, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It's a Shia-majority country, and it has a mixed population,

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It has its own sort of civilization.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So I think Iranian foreign policy would safeguard Iran's independence and basically be non-aligned.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It would not take sides

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

in between Ethiopia and Eritrea, between Israel and Palestine, between China and United States.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And historically, that's what all Iranian governments have done.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

You know, the Shah, unlike the popular imagination is that he was a US lackey, if you read the actual foreign policy experts on Iran, they call it de facto non-alignment.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So yes, he was on the side of the US in the Cold War, but he was remarkably independent and had relationship with Soviet Union, had relationship with China, had relationship with tons of countries in Africa.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So Iran needs to be guardedly sort of independent and non-aligned.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And look what Islamic Republic has done.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Iran supported Russia against Ukraine.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

You know, Iran regarded Israel's destruction as its goal.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Iran adopted this crazy anti-Americanism and death to America.