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Arash Azizi

πŸ‘€ Speaker
481 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Will they accept like a 300% pay cut for the next year?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Because that's what Iranians have had to go through, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So because of this, there is indeed a huge gap.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

They basically, they're faced with a regime that has been trying to repress them, is super corrupt on its own terms, brought them international isolation, poverty, declining economy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I know to put the cherry on the top,

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Iranians are kind of a very patriotic people, and this regime doesn't even sort of, and it has now understood and tries to speak more in the language of Iranian nationalism, but it has make them involved in an issue like Israel-Palestine, for example, that is not a core Iranian national issue.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It would be actually very different if it was a regime that was involved in nationalist adventurism.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Iranians could see, but it's, and this is also hard for outsiders to believe, you know,

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Iranians had no clue about the Israeli and Palestinian conflict.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Like if you ask people, you know, I'm an expert on this issue.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I'm a Middle East politics guy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I'm always amazed.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I talk to young Iranians, even though the regime every day has talked about Palestine for so long, they don't know anything.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Like they don't know what's the difference between 1967, 1948.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

They don't know because this is not a topic that they felt close to.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And by the way, that's how it's very funny.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

People on the American left understand that about America,

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

They understand very well why many Americans are like, we don't wanna be involved in Iran or the Middle East.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

But they somehow can't understand that Iranians, well, they feel the same about Palestine, Israel, which is thousands of kilometers away, is not related to them, and it has cost them a lot.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So this confrontation with Israel and the United States,