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Arash Azizi

πŸ‘€ Speaker
481 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And there really is a huge gap.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So I don't think Rubio is wrong there in some way.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

There is a really huge gap between people and the regime.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I think most people really despise so much about the regime.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And the reasons for this are actually not that hard to fathom.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So the Islamic Republic since 1979, tried first of all to bring about an Islamist Puritan society in which everybody is good Muslims and observes all rules of Islam.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And let me tell you this, there's no way this would ever work anywhere.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It has never worked ever in history.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

If you try to force anything down people's throats for so long, you will have a reaction against it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Even if it's your most fervent belief, whatever it is that you love, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

You know, like if you love rock music, if someone forces you to wear a rock music t-shirt every day and listen to it every night, you're not going to like it, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So that's basically what has happened in Iran, that people hate this kind of imposition.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So that's one big gap.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

The other big gap is that basically the Islam Republic has told people, have your standards of living followed.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Be in international isolation.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Be poorer in favor of Iran fighting some global fight against Israel and America.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

No country in the world will take that deal.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Nobody will take that deal, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

All these most fervent anti-Israel, anti-America folks here who love praising Iran, they wouldn't want to pay a personal price out of that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

you know, what personal price will they give?