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Arash Azizi

πŸ‘€ Speaker
481 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

That's why they didn't do it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Yeah, I mean, you know, it's kind of how it works in superpowers.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Although it's also true that

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So Trump has made it a big issue for himself.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Well, he has some face saving to do.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Then the global economy is hurt, and that influences America.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

But when you really think about it, I mean, the gas prices are up.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Yes, it hurts the pockets.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

But, you know, it's like, I don't know, even if you checked your retirement account, it was going down a little bit, but then it's okay, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

People find a way to stabilize these things.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Whereas in Iran, we're really talking about, you know, entire destructions.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And as I said, there is a danger of Iran becoming a failed state if this continues long enough.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Just because I said the regime can't stay in charge doesn't mean the other option is not on the table.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Not to mention that...

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Trump might go toward that crazy options that he talks about and really do destroy important parts of Iranian civil infrastructure, which will take years to make a rebuild.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I think I can answer it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And hopefully people who follow my work will see that I'm usually a clear-eyed guy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I say what I think it is.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I don't say what I would like it to be.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It would be a very different world if it was what I like it to be.