Ari Redbord
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first heard Feb 2026
last heard 11 May
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I just call it money laundering.
And I'll tell you, there's no TRM to track and trace those things.
And I think that- There's no trad tree at TRM?
What we now are able to do here, because every transaction is logged and immutable and traceable and trackable on a public ledger, I'm sure you've discussed this before over the years, we can do this much better in my mind.
I think they absolutely are with this sort of caveat, right?
We don't live in a world yet, and who knows if we will, where all activity occurs on chain.
Every case is a mix of on and off chain activity.
And what we are really good at at TRM is enabling law enforcement and others to see every transaction that occurs on chain.
Where we lose visibility is where funds move off chain through networks of OTC brokers in China, through, you know, Hawalas, you know, crypto like Hawalas.
When you can move it to cash,
And I think one thing I've always really tried to explain is that these tools are not a silver bullet.
They're one tool in a toolbox that a great investigator has, right?
So if funds are moving through an exchange, what law enforcement does is serves a subpoena on that cryptocurrency exchange to get that underlying user information.
And once they have it, then they reach out to Google for their Gmail.
They reach out to, you know, their cell phone provider.
Maybe they're able to actually figure out their location by triangulating cell tower data, right?
They're using all the tools that law enforcement has used for a really long time.
I mean, one example of this, and it hasn't played out sadly, but I got asked a lot when there was a Bitcoin ransom demand in the Nancy Guthrie letter about how essentially this would work, right?
The most mainstream way
case that we've seen probably in a decade in terms of people really wanting to understand how this worked.
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