Ari Redbord
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886 appearances
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first heard Feb 2026
last heard 11 May
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So oftentimes like North Korea will steal the money, but ultimately turn it over, essentially sell the funds to one of these networks.
I believe ThorChain was in that case, yes.
And we've seen that playbook play out in Kelp as well in this most recent heist.
That's one piece of it.
The other piece, North Korea over the years has been used to using some of the services that are on Bitcoin to launder funds, some of the more centralized mixing services.
Obviously, we saw...
North Korea used Tornado Cash for years.
We see that less so today on Ethereum.
So we see them do a lot of different types of... Use a lot of different services.
That's right.
And sometimes it takes days to get some amount off chain.
Sometimes it takes weeks.
But we've seen in cases where it takes months or even years where North Korea.
Right.
To me, the one of the ways we can solve the money laundering problem when it comes to North Korea is doing everything we can to create a really strong perimeter.
Because the challenge for North Korea is always, it's not just North Korea, these big butchering networks and cartels and others, is how do you off-ramp the funds?
And they're looking to the weakest points to do that.
I think Russia-based exchanges that do no KYC, that don't use tools like TRM to monitor transactions or don't care.
We've seen Treasury actually sanction a whole host of these services.
Think ChatX and Garantex and BitsLotto and so many others.
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