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Art Arthur

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The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

But to your point, and I have a feeling I know where you're going with this, the law is clear that the Secretary of State cannot make this determination based upon statements, beliefs, or associations or activities and associations in the United States that are lawful in the United States, which means that Marco Rubio seems to think that Mr. Khalil has done something that would be unlawful in this country.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

But to your point, and I have a feeling I know where you're going with this, the law is clear that the Secretary of State cannot make this determination based upon statements, beliefs, or associations or activities and associations in the United States that are lawful in the United States, which means that Marco Rubio seems to think that Mr. Khalil has done something that would be unlawful in this country.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

But to your point, and I have a feeling I know where you're going with this, the law is clear that the Secretary of State cannot make this determination based upon statements, beliefs, or associations or activities and associations in the United States that are lawful in the United States, which means that Marco Rubio seems to think that Mr. Khalil has done something that would be unlawful in this country.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

Now, and this is an important caveat that I have to add. Even if Khalil's activities were lawful and even if Rubio has made the determination that they were, if his presence implicates a compelling or compromises a compelling foreign policy issue, then he could still go ahead, Rubio could still go ahead and move to deport Khalil. So, that letter is going to be absolutely crucial.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

Now, and this is an important caveat that I have to add. Even if Khalil's activities were lawful and even if Rubio has made the determination that they were, if his presence implicates a compelling or compromises a compelling foreign policy issue, then he could still go ahead, Rubio could still go ahead and move to deport Khalil. So, that letter is going to be absolutely crucial.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

Now, and this is an important caveat that I have to add. Even if Khalil's activities were lawful and even if Rubio has made the determination that they were, if his presence implicates a compelling or compromises a compelling foreign policy issue, then he could still go ahead, Rubio could still go ahead and move to deport Khalil. So, that letter is going to be absolutely crucial.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

So that letter has to be presented to the immigration judge at the time that Mr. Khalil is presented in immigration court so that the judge can make a determination that it was properly issued. And really, the only part of this that the judge can rule on is whether or not it was properly issued. The judge can't second guess the foreign policy interest that was asserted.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

So that letter has to be presented to the immigration judge at the time that Mr. Khalil is presented in immigration court so that the judge can make a determination that it was properly issued. And really, the only part of this that the judge can rule on is whether or not it was properly issued. The judge can't second guess the foreign policy interest that was asserted.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

So that letter has to be presented to the immigration judge at the time that Mr. Khalil is presented in immigration court so that the judge can make a determination that it was properly issued. And really, the only part of this that the judge can rule on is whether or not it was properly issued. The judge can't second guess the foreign policy interest that was asserted.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

But I think both sides in this case, Mike, and I think this is really the interesting part, both sides are looking forward to that hearing. And, you know, wait to see whether Khalil allows that hearing to be public or whether, you know, he asked for the courtroom to be closed. Is that up to Khalil and his attorneys to make that decision?

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

But I think both sides in this case, Mike, and I think this is really the interesting part, both sides are looking forward to that hearing. And, you know, wait to see whether Khalil allows that hearing to be public or whether, you know, he asked for the courtroom to be closed. Is that up to Khalil and his attorneys to make that decision?

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

But I think both sides in this case, Mike, and I think this is really the interesting part, both sides are looking forward to that hearing. And, you know, wait to see whether Khalil allows that hearing to be public or whether, you know, he asked for the courtroom to be closed. Is that up to Khalil and his attorneys to make that decision?

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

He can make that request and the judge generally will grant those requests. But I think that Mr. Khalil probably wants to use that hearing as a platform by which to say, I'm just a good guy. I'm simply here in the United States. I'm going to be the father of a child. You know, and, you know, to sort of, you know, present his political views.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

He can make that request and the judge generally will grant those requests. But I think that Mr. Khalil probably wants to use that hearing as a platform by which to say, I'm just a good guy. I'm simply here in the United States. I'm going to be the father of a child. You know, and, you know, to sort of, you know, present his political views.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

He can make that request and the judge generally will grant those requests. But I think that Mr. Khalil probably wants to use that hearing as a platform by which to say, I'm just a good guy. I'm simply here in the United States. I'm going to be the father of a child. You know, and, you know, to sort of, you know, present his political views.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

I think that the administration is interested in, you know, using that hearing as a platform at which you can discuss everything that happened in Columbia University. If you do all the reading on the on this case and what happened in Columbia, I'm sure you have. I know I have. you know, it's all over the map. On the one hand, you know, they're simply peacefully protesting.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

I think that the administration is interested in, you know, using that hearing as a platform at which you can discuss everything that happened in Columbia University. If you do all the reading on the on this case and what happened in Columbia, I'm sure you have. I know I have. you know, it's all over the map. On the one hand, you know, they're simply peacefully protesting.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

I think that the administration is interested in, you know, using that hearing as a platform at which you can discuss everything that happened in Columbia University. If you do all the reading on the on this case and what happened in Columbia, I'm sure you have. I know I have. you know, it's all over the map. On the one hand, you know, they're simply peacefully protesting.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

On the other hand, there are students that are afraid to go to class and custodians that were, you know, threatened with assault and locked in rooms. So, it'll be interesting to hear what comes out.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | March 22nd, 2025: Trump’s Venezuelan Gang Deportations & U.S. Hits Back At Houthis

On the other hand, there are students that are afraid to go to class and custodians that were, you know, threatened with assault and locked in rooms. So, it'll be interesting to hear what comes out.