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Arvind Narayanan

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The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

So this is the best method that we have.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

So these probabilities are all bogus, and that's my strongly held view.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

We should not think in terms of probabilities.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

I do think the risks are potentially real.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

I'm not advocating for ignoring the risks, but I think the right response cannot be, let's try to stop all this.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

There are two big problems with that.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

One, it's just not going to work.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

The only way it could work is if you have an authoritarian world government that can control every AI developer everywhere.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

This is not true at all.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

It might be true that absolutely the most powerful Frontier models can only run on powerful GPUs, but you have slightly smaller models that are maybe one step below that can run on consumer-grade hardware.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

And the cost of running these models is dropping by something like somewhere between a factor of 10 to a factor of 100 every year.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

the cost is dropping very rapidly, both because the hardware is getting faster per dollar and because algorithmic improvements are allowing us to squeeze more juice out of smaller models.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

Now, again, I completely disagree with this.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

I think historically, this is very easily falsified.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

When OpenAI built GPT-2, which was two generations before ChatGPT, which was when the world started noticing, they thought that model was so dangerous that they were not going to release it for people to download and use.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

And that's something that my grad students can build today just for fun and learning in a day or two.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

And so historically, when we look back, our ideas around what constitutes the threshold level of danger have kind of been comically off.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

And I don't think there is really any clear relationship

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

between the power of a model in terms of how computationally heavy it is and what dangerous things it might potentially be able to do in terms of enabling cyber attack, in terms of various things that worry about in terms of bio risk.

The Rest Is Politics
What If the AI Revolution Isn’t Real?

Actually, some of those models can be much, much smaller and faster than these large language models because those biological capabilities are not about language at all.