Ash Kelley

Can you imagine just trying to get away with all your poor behavior?

Yeah, that's fucked up.

Just saying, I'm divinely authorized.

Nobody cares about the divines.

It is.

So the late 70s was definitely transformational for both of the two.

They abandoned their previous moniker, though, of the two, and they started referring to each other as Bo and Peep.

That's for real.

I think that, and I think they were getting so lost in all of this that there was no tie to reality at this point in time.

At the same time, and this is how I know that, their mythology and beliefs were also evolving.

They seem to include, especially now at this point, all of their ideologies seem to include a more science fiction based concept.

For example, in 1975, they convinced their small group of followers, because people had dropped off at that point in time, that a spaceship was coming to Earth and it would only take 30 of them.

So they all camped out in Oregon waiting for the ship to arrive, but it didn't.

And then so they were like, oh, we had our calculations wrong because cults do that a lot.

And then they repeated the claim a few months later.

And again, the ship didn't come.

That's incredible.

I'm making sure.

It is.

No, they're the reasonablest.