Ashley Carman

Well, and this also relates to Spotify, because Spotify was the first one out of the gate.

They announced that they're licensing some of their video podcasts to Netflix starting in the new year.

Crucially, this means those video podcasts, the full episodes will be removed from YouTube.

So the fact that Netflix is having conversations with additional networks like iHeart is pretty significant.

It shows that they really are interested in at least testing out this video podcast space.