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Ashley Flowers

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Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

So they send back their official profile and they're like, no, like this. This kid is not your guy. And you can't say that this kid killed this woman based on some drawings. Now, instead of hearing that and then like, you know, casting a wider net or thinking like, who should we be looking at? Right. It's kind of like they go profiler shopping like and they don't do another official profile.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

So they send back their official profile and they're like, no, like this. This kid is not your guy. And you can't say that this kid killed this woman based on some drawings. Now, instead of hearing that and then like, you know, casting a wider net or thinking like, who should we be looking at? Right. It's kind of like they go profiler shopping like and they don't do another official profile.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

I don't know if the FBI probably just is like a one and done kind of thing. I'm sure they're not like, yeah, we'll just redo that for you. The police basically like do a phone a friend and call up this guy in Washington to do like an unofficial thing. And they get this memo back. And the guy is like, listen, I. I don't know about all the drawings and stuff, whatever.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

I don't know if the FBI probably just is like a one and done kind of thing. I'm sure they're not like, yeah, we'll just redo that for you. The police basically like do a phone a friend and call up this guy in Washington to do like an unofficial thing. And they get this memo back. And the guy is like, listen, I. I don't know about all the drawings and stuff, whatever.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Maybe if a lot of ifs, ands, buts, maybes, whatever. But he's like, listen, what I have seen before are cases where a suspect will position their victim in a way so that they can see them after the crime or maybe even see the crime scene unfold, whatever. And where the master's trailer was did have a direct line of sight to where Peggy was found. So that's enough for Jim Broderick.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Maybe if a lot of ifs, ands, buts, maybes, whatever. But he's like, listen, what I have seen before are cases where a suspect will position their victim in a way so that they can see them after the crime or maybe even see the crime scene unfold, whatever. And where the master's trailer was did have a direct line of sight to where Peggy was found. So that's enough for Jim Broderick.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

The takeaway is clear that this kid is dangerous and it is his job, nay his duty, to get him off the streets of Fort Collins. So the police don't let up. They are pulling him out of class. They're telling his teachers that he is a dangerous individual suspected of murder, which obviously doesn't stay with just the teachers.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

The takeaway is clear that this kid is dangerous and it is his job, nay his duty, to get him off the streets of Fort Collins. So the police don't let up. They are pulling him out of class. They're telling his teachers that he is a dangerous individual suspected of murder, which obviously doesn't stay with just the teachers.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Tim said that at one point, I mean, he would be walking down the hall and kids would go to the other side because they didn't want to walk next to the kids suspected of murder. And he wasn't just getting it at school. It was coming at him from all angles.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Tim said that at one point, I mean, he would be walking down the hall and kids would go to the other side because they didn't want to walk next to the kids suspected of murder. And he wasn't just getting it at school. It was coming at him from all angles.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

I mean, every day for the first month of the investigation, the newspaper would show up at their house and the front page was about Peggy's case, how they had one singular suspect that they were honing in on. But Tim wouldn't break in all that time. And he had answers for a lot of things. So yes, his shoe prints were in the field, but he walks through that field.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

I mean, every day for the first month of the investigation, the newspaper would show up at their house and the front page was about Peggy's case, how they had one singular suspect that they were honing in on. But Tim wouldn't break in all that time. And he had answers for a lot of things. So yes, his shoe prints were in the field, but he walks through that field.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

And his prints were not the critical ones, those Tom McCann dress shoes. His, the closest it came was like five to seven feet away from Peggy, which is like where he said he was walking and saw her. And he said, yeah, I knew her nipple had been removed, but not because I saw it or did it. A girl in my art class told me about it. Well, And the police had kids out looking for the nipple. Kids talk.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

And his prints were not the critical ones, those Tom McCann dress shoes. His, the closest it came was like five to seven feet away from Peggy, which is like where he said he was walking and saw her. And he said, yeah, I knew her nipple had been removed, but not because I saw it or did it. A girl in my art class told me about it. Well, And the police had kids out looking for the nipple. Kids talk.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Yes. The blood that they found on his pants turned out to be his own blood. The knives that they collected from his room, his whole knife collection, none of them could be connected to be the murder weapon. And there were unidentified prints found on Peggy's purse and unidentified hairs found on her, none of which belonged to Timb.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Yes. The blood that they found on his pants turned out to be his own blood. The knives that they collected from his room, his whole knife collection, none of them could be connected to be the murder weapon. And there were unidentified prints found on Peggy's purse and unidentified hairs found on her, none of which belonged to Timb.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

So they had no choice but at some point to cast a wider net and they would look at some other people but quickly rule them out. So it's not surprising that this case cooled off pretty quickly, which was so frustrating for Peggy's family. And, you know, it's so, like, what I found so, like, revealing, and I see this in a lot of cases, but it was just so clear in this one to me.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

So they had no choice but at some point to cast a wider net and they would look at some other people but quickly rule them out. So it's not surprising that this case cooled off pretty quickly, which was so frustrating for Peggy's family. And, you know, it's so, like, what I found so, like, revealing, and I see this in a lot of cases, but it was just so clear in this one to me.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

When someone dies, there's, like, this 2D version of them that gets left behind, especially when it's, you know, back in the 80s or whatever. It's like you get a couple of lines in a newspaper about who Peggy was, and that's all I had to go off of when I first started looking into this case. And I want to give our listeners a sense of it. So if you would read what was published about her. Mm-hmm.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

When someone dies, there's, like, this 2D version of them that gets left behind, especially when it's, you know, back in the 80s or whatever. It's like you get a couple of lines in a newspaper about who Peggy was, and that's all I had to go off of when I first started looking into this case. And I want to give our listeners a sense of it. So if you would read what was published about her. Mm-hmm.