Ashley Parker

Maybe it's a poll you put in front of him, right?

And say, look at this map of the country, right?

look at these states you need to win and look where they are on the overturning of abortion.

And because they understand that that's how he takes in information and understands it.

And I think that's been incredibly helpful.

Yeah.

And one more thing on Susie is that Vanity Fair piece Michael mentioned, you know, I assume your listeners know, but it was Susie gave a bunch of candid interviews to Chris Whipple.

And they were on the record.

And he ended up sort of taking, as journalists do, the most interesting and sometimes incendiary parts and publishing it in a very long vanity fair piece that got a ton of attention.

And I understood why the White House was upset over it and Suzy was upset over it, because I think there were some observations she made and things she said quite candidly that you wouldn't necessarily want

in the public domain.

But as I read that, I thought, this is what makes her a good chief of staff.

She's incredibly clear-eyed, right?

She knows who's who.

She knows when there's been a mistake.

She sees, you know, the angle this person is always playing and she's aware of it.

So I think she's very savvy and smart of sort of the court around him and who they are and what their motivations are.

One thing is that Trump himself does not really differentiate always between the sources, right?

You may know that an article in The New York Times means one thing and that an article in Breitbart News means something else and interpret it accordingly.

You know, the same way as a student, if I'm writing a research paper, I know that taking something out of an original source textbook is one caliber of information.