Ashley Parker

It is to push and push and push until you get any blowback.

And then to push again even harder in maybe a slightly more creative way or a slightly tweaked way.

But, you know, he got a lot of attention for something he said to Jake Tapper.

And this was in the aftermath of the toppling of Maduro in Venezuela, as it looked like the United States might be interested in taking Greenland by force.

And essentially, we are going to do that unconstrained by laws and the Constitution and societal niceties and norms.

We are going to do what we want to do until essentially we are all but physically stopped from doing that.

But again, to Michael's point of both things can be true.

There is in some areas a bit of a recalibration, but the reason that recalibration will not be felt in a super meaningful way by the country is because only Stephen Miller makes Homan look like an immigration squish, right?

By any other metric, we could be here doing a podcast about how Tom Homan's is so extreme and far right on immigration.

One thing that has helped their relationship, not even in the administration, but just going back to how he ended up becoming Trump's choice to be vice president, is there are a group of mainly young men around J.D.

Vance, including Donald Trump's oldest son, Don Jr., who he is sort of legitimately friends with.

And these guys, a lot of these young men...

They came up under Steve Bannon and they were there with the president in the first term and were part of the faction that was actually legitimately loyal to Donald Trump.

And so he's sort of part of this coterie, this crew.

A lot of them, you know, J.D.

Bantz was also very close to Charlie Kirk.

And so he comes with his sort of MAGA Trump bona fides, you know, after you get over the stuff he said about Trump previously, which he's claimed he has evolved and he understands more clearly.

And so in that way, Trump trusts him.

Trump has kind of so far at least thrown a jump ball between Vance and Rubio, which should surprise no one who just knows Trump's flair for the dramatic.

Of course, he would not anoint an obvious successor.