Ashley Roberts

So I think that just goes to show, yeah, I mean, you know, it's not necessarily fun, but that's sort of how you get through it on the other side and get growth and evolution within yourself.

Being positive is a great thing, right?

Totally.

But too much of anything is probably too much.

Well, yeah.

you know, I feel like it's interesting you and I, right.

Cause like you said, when you see me, I give off light and you're the same way.

Like when you're in that, when I come into your presence, I know I'm going to get like a burst of joy, but also you were very inspiring to me going on that run and being vulnerable within that.

I'm serious.

Cause I was like, look like, wow.

Like

He's really opening up right now.

And I was in the midst of writing this book and I was like, okay, like it's time.

It's time to sort of be a full human, right?

Because we're not all just one thing.

We're so complex.

And yeah, I feel like there's, I feel like I'm kind of maybe growing up a bit as well just to be able to share all this.

But you were a big inspiration for me during that.

Yeah.

And the thing is, is I still look at you as this big ball of joy, you know, even though... Same to you.