Ashley Rose

But we are.

So we're over that.

Yeah, so we, last year, we about tripled our revenue.

And so we're looking for a very kind of similar growth path this year.

So right now, the way that most companies are managing their human risk program, it's typically been driven on what we call activity metrics.

So how many people are engaged with the program?

Are they completing training?

We're trying to check that box for compliance.

And so what Living Security has done is really transitioning the way that we think about success for our program as being outcome driven.

And the outcome that we're trying to drive is behavior change.

And so in order to do that, we built Unify, which is actually integrating into the existing security technology stack to bring in end user kind of behavioral data and to generate insights for our security leaders.

So they can say, you know, who is the most at risk and what are they doing?

What are these behaviors that are really causing risk for the company?

What are some of the behaviors?

What's that?

Yeah.

So, I mean, that's a really good example.

And right now, the data that most companies use are phishing simulation metrics.

So they'll send out those phishing emails to their employee base to figure out who's going to click, right, who's going to report.

And then that's the data that they're presenting.