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Aswath Damodaran

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
154 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

I want to focus in on two companies, the two biggest LLMs, Anthropic and OpenAI, which I would argue are technically public companies.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

You can buy shares in the secondary market.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

I believe Anthropic's raising at $350.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

OpenAI, I believe, is trying to close around at $850.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

Yeah, I'm curious what you think of those respective valuations on the companies.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

And our thesis has been that Anthropic is actually, I don't wanna call it underpriced, but we think that there's gonna be a flip in valuation, that Anthropic has more momentum, more enterprise,

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

and that OpenAI is a bit more consumer, more vulnerable, and quite frankly, it's just endured a lot of negative PR, which feels like negative momentum.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

Have you looked at either or both of these companies in the respective valuations?

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

So a couple questions.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

The first is you mentioned a reference to dollar.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

And while the Trump administration and investors will highlight that the S&P was up, I think it was up 17% last year, if you adjust for the dollars,

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

drop in value against other major currencies, the S&P underperformed almost every other major market.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

And it does feel as if the U.S.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

dollar is under attack and the catastrophizing around the dollar losing its status as a reserve currency.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

You know, rumors of the dollar's demise have been greatly exaggerated, except it does feel wobbly right now.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

Curious to get your thoughts on the dollar and how it intersects with different markets.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

I'm trying to get insight into a political race or earnings estimates.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

I would go to either pollsters or I'd go to, you know, name the bulge-racket investment bank analysts to try and get some insight.

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

Not to go to your party market?

Prof G Markets
Markets are Ignoring Catastrophic Risks โ€” ft. Aswath Damodaran

You read my mind.