Athena Aktipis

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #144 Classic episode – Athena Aktipis on why cancer is a fundamental universal phenomena · 9 Jan 2026 podcast

But we can use this cognitive shortcut as long as we acknowledge it's a cognitive shortcut.

Yeah.

good.

We just need the right caveats in there.

other than the sort of like cellular bureaucracy that you have to deal with.

Like if you're an elephant, it's like, oh, can I do this, please?

I submitted the request three weeks ago.

What's going on?

Can I please divide now?

Yeah, I mean, there are all sorts of trade-offs.

I mean, like one of the basic principles of sort of like

you know, thinking in evolutionary terms is that, you know, there are going to be trade-offs.

If you want to, you know, divide quickly, then, you know, you have to deal with the potential of having more mutations, right?

And so then if you don't want to have that trade-off, like you can be stuck up against the fact that, well, there's actually physical constraints to, you know, if you're going to divide and check the DNA, right?

That takes actual time, right?

Yeah.

So, yes, you know, you can make more, you know, proteins that monitor things.

You can, you know, even try to get as much friction out of the system as possible.

But eventually, you know, there are some tradeoffs that you just can't escape once you, you know, get to a certain point when a lot of things have already sort of been optimized in terms of, you know, getting those systems functioning efficiently.

Yeah.

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