Athena Aktipis
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first heard Jan 2026
last heard 9 Jan
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be done but you know like how how good are we going to be at anticipating what the you know side effects are going to be and you know making sure that those are trade-offs that we want to make for ourselves or for you know the next generation um i think you know there's there are a lot of issues that we definitely should be thinking about and grappling with um
You know, when when when we think about like, you know, when we think about cancer and the future of cancer, because it's not as simple as just, you know, oh, what's the magic bullet to make cancer go away?
Right.
Yeah.
Well, anytime you have the conditions that will select for cooperation, you can get the evolution of cooperation.
And so, yeah, on a first pass, we can think of cancer cells as cellular cheaters.
But if they're in a situation where they can produce growth factors, not just for themselves, but for their neighbors, then especially if you have
You know, clones.
Right.
You have the same genetic lineage.
Very easy to evolve, you know, this sort of cooperative trait of producing growth factors that, you know, promote the growth of the cells around as well.
You can also get, you know, division of labor.
Right.
Like some cells specializing in.
producing growth factors, other cells specializing in evading the immune system, even other cells specializing in reproduction, right?
So there's certain kinds of cancer cells.
We call them cancer stem cells because they're the ones that replicate and there's a lot of cancer cells that don't.
And one potential explanation for why that is the case is because you have a sort of proto-multicellularity almost going on where some cells...
can be specializing in the reproduction side of things and other cells can be specializing in, you know, doing all of the things to help that little, you know, cluster of proto-multicellular cancer protoplasm, like, you know, get around and replicate.
So it's...
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