Athena Aktipis
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first heard Jan 2026
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But in certain kinds of conditions, those memes can, you know, take hold and also, you know, spread within within a population.
Yeah.
I mean, if you want to kind of like look at our whole species as an entity or, you know, kind of go go a little Gaia and be like, hey, you know, Earth.
Right.
It's like we're we're all like one one big system or we're, you know, a unit on some level.
Like if you do zoom out.
Right.
And if you accept that, it's reasonably likely that there may be other life out there in the universe that is, you know, also existing on Earth.
planets where there are resources and using them, then, you know, there's a certain level on which, you know, yeah, you can think of all of us as part of, you know, a unit that, you know, is probably the right level of analysis is the, you know, planet is, you know, Gaia, even though like, I know, like, there's, there's sort of been a lot of poo pooing of the idea of Gaia and evolutionary biology.
But but there's a certain level on which it does make sense if you zoom out far enough.
And also, if you think about sort of the interdependence of systems on Earth, you know that that yes, that there is some level, I think, on which it's at least a reasonable tool to use to think about some of these things.
And, yeah, I mean, there I think there are absolutely ways that we could think about, you know, our behavior vis-a-vis the limited, you know, resources that are on our planet as having some analogies with some of the processes that that go on with with cancer and, you know, efforts to.
try to, you know, increase sustainability and, you know, make sure that we're living in a way that will, you know, be, will make it more likely that future generations will, you know, have a decent chance of a good life.
I think, you know, all of those are questions that have some analogies with, you know, sort of short-sightedness that can happen with cancer inside the body.
Well, I'm smiling for a few reasons.
One is because I love talking and thinking about extraterrestrial life and the possibility that...
The things that are going on elsewhere in the universe, they can provide a frame for thinking about what's going on here that's just so different.
So I'm smiling because I love that.
And also because another way of thinking about spacefaring, intelligent life is that maybe there's a certain way in which it's more like a transmissible cancer that's like really –
good at like cooperating to like extract the resources and then go far um even you know beyond the body or the um the planet and uh and you know find another extant um you know life form to to colonize so okay do you think that of humanity would then be a kind of transmissible cancer that started on this planet and then is going to spread to other planets and use other resources there i mean you know we're kind of off the deep end but it's fun i love it i love it
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