Athena Aktipis
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first heard Jan 2026
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And then it just kind of puts our attention on like, yeah, maybe we should just be ready for the unexpected so that at least we have some more time to plan.
And that's the thing.
It's like you might not be able to have enough food around to actually manage the risk of something catastrophic that would happen.
But you can have enough food around so that you have a few days to figure out what your next steps are if something really catastrophic happens.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's, like, people have called it survival porn, right?
There's something, like, just, like, appealing about, like, imagining yourself, like, out there or inside or trying to survive, you know, and challenging odds.
It's, yeah, it's like a little, like, a story that we, like, tell ourselves, right, that makes us, you know, have fun and feel good.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And I think that really puts a really nice pin on what I'm trying to do with this book, which is it's an invitation to play a little bit of make-believe about all of the things that could go wrong, things that are already going wrong politically.
I mean, there's places in the world that are just straight-up apocalyptic right now, right?
But if we go into that place of, like, having fun imagining the zombie apocalypse or how we would survive in a, you know, nuclear war where there were, you know, giant, huge spiders outside, right?
Like, add something fun and silly, and then it, like...
It makes it not as real, which makes it easier for us to engage without that fear response kind of dominating.
Right.
And so I think like, you know, we can learn a lot from looking at, you know, like horror and looking at like apocalyptic fiction and like, you know, people like horror.
to engage with these things if there's enough of an element of play to it.
And so I think if we can keep that playfulness, cultivate that playfulness and make it social as well, you know, that that's really, that's what's going to help us to manage our risk as individuals and ultimately, you know, collectively manage our societal risk more effectively.
Yeah.
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