Atherton

and just proof that to reach this high ceiling you need to be playing cricket and I think the penny's dropped for him now it needs to drop throughout English cricket and in particular this management that if people are going to get better the only way is by having match practice now I don't know who you would have started with at the beginning of the series a lot of people would have gone Pope but right now they've had two people actually here

that didn't start the series in Tongue and Bethel.

And I bet they're wishing they did at the start.

It is and obviously if there is a miracle tomorrow and Bethel bats well with the tail and they get up towards 160, 180 you're going to need your most accurate bowler because I thought actually Australia will come on to our Australia Bowl but I thought with the new ball after Stark got Crawley those cracks at Sydney they didn't quite get their lengths right because there were a lot of balls the ball that hit Bethel on the head and went over slips there were a lot of balls flying off a length but then when the ball went soft that disappeared so I think they may miss

Stokes the bowler tomorrow.

But they then had to go to Tongue and a bit of spin.

But I thought Tongue bowled and he got Steve Smith again.

Yeah, I mean, Smith is great in lining bowlers up,

but he can't line him up.

He's a problem solver.

If there's another battle in another action series, by then Smith would have tried to solve that problem.

But it's a good combination.

If you're getting good players out and you are mopping up the tail, that is a good combination.

Your stats will always be healthy.

There have been some cricketers and bowlers that just come on and get wickets at the end.

But what you really want to see, and we talked about stats and comparing Boland yesterday to someone like Kars, the stats aren't that different.

But actually, when you watch, you know that Boland will get good players out as well.

And I think that's the thing that Tong has in his locker.

He will produce good deliveries to get good players out front.

What did you make of the Crawley dismissal?